lost_in_migration
05-29 04:31 PM
And I thought it could not be worse than what we already got :(
What are they going to do next... Put us in Guantanamo Bay detention camp.... for being immigrants ...and that too legal...and that too high skilled.:mad:
Posting this since almost every thread has the question about the cut-off date after which all LCs or I-140s will be invalidated.
Excerpt from "http://www.ilw.com/articles/2007,0530-endelman.shtm" posted earlier, the cutoff date is May 15, 2007; NOT May 21 2007. (Thanks to "cnag" for finding this link).
Now, the points system waits until October 1, 2008, the first day of the second fiscal year following enactment. From September 10, 2007 until October 1, 2008, over one year, we will have no employment-based green cards! You heard me right friend, no employer sponsorship based on anything after May 15th 2007 and no points system. This is Pat Buchanan's dream come true- an entire fiscal year without any green cards being issued on the basis of employment!
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Thanks,
Jayant
What are they going to do next... Put us in Guantanamo Bay detention camp.... for being immigrants ...and that too legal...and that too high skilled.:mad:
Posting this since almost every thread has the question about the cut-off date after which all LCs or I-140s will be invalidated.
Excerpt from "http://www.ilw.com/articles/2007,0530-endelman.shtm" posted earlier, the cutoff date is May 15, 2007; NOT May 21 2007. (Thanks to "cnag" for finding this link).
Now, the points system waits until October 1, 2008, the first day of the second fiscal year following enactment. From September 10, 2007 until October 1, 2008, over one year, we will have no employment-based green cards! You heard me right friend, no employer sponsorship based on anything after May 15th 2007 and no points system. This is Pat Buchanan's dream come true- an entire fiscal year without any green cards being issued on the basis of employment!
... ...
Thanks,
Jayant
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rajuram
01-05 12:17 AM
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Gravitation
12-13 10:12 AM
I hope it doesn't retrogress in future.
I still don't understand why is EB-2 not moving forward especially that EB-1 is current.
Too many people converted to perm-EB2 when EB3 retrogression hit. Also, excess EB2 RoW are not flowing to EB2-India but to EB3 instead.
I still don't understand why is EB-2 not moving forward especially that EB-1 is current.
Too many people converted to perm-EB2 when EB3 retrogression hit. Also, excess EB2 RoW are not flowing to EB2-India but to EB3 instead.
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mailmy_gc
10-29 01:40 PM
If USCIS says, there is no problem to continue with our employment as long as we have applied for EAD renewal, there wouldn't be all this emotions. Every one would have normal BP. They must just come out and say that I would be ok to continue working.
It is so inhuman to treat us like this. They say "The day EAD expires, you must quit working until you receive the new EAD card".
Most of our jobs are replaceable in today's world. There is no shortage of "skilled workers". So, I for sure cannot take a long leave and wait for EAD to come by and re-join....because my job would be gone by then to some other "skilled" person. And its not easy to get another one quickly and without moving to a different place.
Is it OK to take paid vacation when EAD expires ?? or Do we need to take unpaid vacation.
My EAD is pending for 100 days now. I still have have 18 days to go. I applied 118 days before... I tried all the ways, I can but none of them yet worked. Took infopass appointment, contacted senator, called USCIS and expadaite, sent mail to Ombudsman (no response at all).
Totally frustrated ...
BTW, did any one got EAD approval from NSC this week.
It is so inhuman to treat us like this. They say "The day EAD expires, you must quit working until you receive the new EAD card".
Most of our jobs are replaceable in today's world. There is no shortage of "skilled workers". So, I for sure cannot take a long leave and wait for EAD to come by and re-join....because my job would be gone by then to some other "skilled" person. And its not easy to get another one quickly and without moving to a different place.
Is it OK to take paid vacation when EAD expires ?? or Do we need to take unpaid vacation.
My EAD is pending for 100 days now. I still have have 18 days to go. I applied 118 days before... I tried all the ways, I can but none of them yet worked. Took infopass appointment, contacted senator, called USCIS and expadaite, sent mail to Ombudsman (no response at all).
Totally frustrated ...
BTW, did any one got EAD approval from NSC this week.
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sunty
12-01 12:19 PM
Just my 2 cents, but I think the quarterly spillover might not happen (Hope I am wrong) for various reasons...
1. If they do quarterly spillovers allocating the left over EB1 to other categories, then it is theoretically possible in the last quarter that, if there is a surge in EB1 applications, CIS might be left with not enough visa numbers for EB1 , and subsequently EB1 might not reach the 28% (or whatever this number) of total employment GCs. This situation will further compound the problem for CIS...Given the situation, this might not be practical, but theoretically possible...So CIS might be thinking, "why have the headache to deal every quarter when the numbers will be clear in the last quarter"
2. Since the spillover also includes Family based to EB, this even more complicates the above issue.
3. Well, administratively it is easy for CIS to issue the spillover visas once at the end of the year, rather than do 4 times a year at the end of each quarter. I guess less work with the same result...
So, in essence USCIS/DOS are allowed to bend the law since there workloads would increase and their systems are not sophisticated enough to implement this. I guess there is no point in raising this issue anymore...:(
1. If they do quarterly spillovers allocating the left over EB1 to other categories, then it is theoretically possible in the last quarter that, if there is a surge in EB1 applications, CIS might be left with not enough visa numbers for EB1 , and subsequently EB1 might not reach the 28% (or whatever this number) of total employment GCs. This situation will further compound the problem for CIS...Given the situation, this might not be practical, but theoretically possible...So CIS might be thinking, "why have the headache to deal every quarter when the numbers will be clear in the last quarter"
2. Since the spillover also includes Family based to EB, this even more complicates the above issue.
3. Well, administratively it is easy for CIS to issue the spillover visas once at the end of the year, rather than do 4 times a year at the end of each quarter. I guess less work with the same result...
So, in essence USCIS/DOS are allowed to bend the law since there workloads would increase and their systems are not sophisticated enough to implement this. I guess there is no point in raising this issue anymore...:(
Waitingnvain
07-17 12:22 PM
I think you might be getting stressed out for no reason vis-a-vis the job market. Most of the people applying (~500k by your estimates) are already on H-1B or L-1. The number of spouses getting EAD is another question.
Just imagine what will happen to the market flooded with EADs. Job market for H1Bs will totally be down. No US companies will hire H1Bs if they get somebody with an EAD. Tonnes of Junior developers and S/W testers will in the market driving the billing rates down even further. It's better to pack up and leave. I have heard from one of the forums here that an estimated 500K people will file this month since all PDs are current. EB-3 mexico + phillipines togther alone will be close to 300K. God help the Job market.
Also minimum wait time will be 500K/140K ~ 4 yrs before they get to process your GC. Add to that the time for namecheck backlog 2+ yrs. So total 6+ yrs before getting GC........
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Just imagine what will happen to the market flooded with EADs. Job market for H1Bs will totally be down. No US companies will hire H1Bs if they get somebody with an EAD. Tonnes of Junior developers and S/W testers will in the market driving the billing rates down even further. It's better to pack up and leave. I have heard from one of the forums here that an estimated 500K people will file this month since all PDs are current. EB-3 mexico + phillipines togther alone will be close to 300K. God help the Job market.
Also minimum wait time will be 500K/140K ~ 4 yrs before they get to process your GC. Add to that the time for namecheck backlog 2+ yrs. So total 6+ yrs before getting GC........
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sajimm
02-23 05:05 PM
I haven�t got a chance to see the actual RFE notice yet, but as per my lawyer it�s for the TB test. The doctor skipped the TB skin test and we both did the X-ray which came back negative.
Does anyone went to a different doctor that the one who initially took the test. I relocated since I took the test, and would like to avoid the 4hr drive.
Has anyone seen a different doctor after getting an RFE. Or should I have got to the same doctor.
Does anyone went to a different doctor that the one who initially took the test. I relocated since I took the test, and would like to avoid the 4hr drive.
Has anyone seen a different doctor after getting an RFE. Or should I have got to the same doctor.
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ivbabu
01-04 01:59 PM
You can bring UP TO 4 spouses on H4 visa. That's why it is called H4. Similarly on F2, you can only bring 2 spouses, Ah...students do not make that kind of money to support more than 2 spouses. USCIS thinks so much about us.
I am just talking out of my A**.
kumar1 & gc_chahiye: your posts made me laugh for more than 10 min. You guys made my day short. I cannot forget this thread at least till this weekend. We need threads like this to easeoff stereotype life and stress
I am just talking out of my A**.
kumar1 & gc_chahiye: your posts made me laugh for more than 10 min. You guys made my day short. I cannot forget this thread at least till this weekend. We need threads like this to easeoff stereotype life and stress
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gauravsh
02-21 01:07 PM
Can you please tell where are you located ?
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jasguild
07-17 09:17 AM
I would not call you pessimistic. You are SELFISH. Sure you do not share the same enthu because this announcement does not offer you anything. Grow up and feel for others. Everyone knows that there will be a backlog and that is an issue we have to deal with once we get there.
I wont even get in a pissing match with you. YOu are free to believe what ever you want.
if you read my post you will see my concern is about the system not working.
I can make a similar argument about you and others. You are so concerned about your benefit today, that you dont see the harm it may do to H1b holders and future candidates for I-485.
If it makes you feel good you can fly to washington and thank them for the blessings after the announcement. So whatever makes your boat floats...
jasquil
I wont even get in a pissing match with you. YOu are free to believe what ever you want.
if you read my post you will see my concern is about the system not working.
I can make a similar argument about you and others. You are so concerned about your benefit today, that you dont see the harm it may do to H1b holders and future candidates for I-485.
If it makes you feel good you can fly to washington and thank them for the blessings after the announcement. So whatever makes your boat floats...
jasquil
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losthope
06-11 12:46 AM
# of votes are less. many people don't know about this?
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dallasdude
06-10 03:44 PM
You can make whatever you like of the current situtation, but let me tell you something.
There is a HUGE difference between being TOLERATED and BEING LIKED.
I am sure you have the intelligence to see the difference.
You can "tolerate" someone you don't like, but you can not "welcome" someone whom you don't like. I for one, donlt want to be in the "tolerated" category.
And may I ask, what exactly is your definition of hostility? Being chased down the street by a bunch of thugs, who think you should be in their country, or the kind of passive hostility being practised as of now?
You are free to go back to your home land if you feel like you are not welcomed here.
There is a HUGE difference between being TOLERATED and BEING LIKED.
I am sure you have the intelligence to see the difference.
You can "tolerate" someone you don't like, but you can not "welcome" someone whom you don't like. I for one, donlt want to be in the "tolerated" category.
And may I ask, what exactly is your definition of hostility? Being chased down the street by a bunch of thugs, who think you should be in their country, or the kind of passive hostility being practised as of now?
You are free to go back to your home land if you feel like you are not welcomed here.
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DSLStart
08-09 09:17 AM
Read question no. 13
MurthyDotCom : 485 FAQs (http://www.murthy.com/485faq.html#13)
Attorneys will obviously give this kind of answer because their loyalty is to their client which is the employer who gives them their revenue. So they'll answer which would be in favor of their client. Inspite of several questions of this kind on her forum she or any of her attorneys have not cited a single example of anyone running into trouble on this issue.
MurthyDotCom : 485 FAQs (http://www.murthy.com/485faq.html#13)
Attorneys will obviously give this kind of answer because their loyalty is to their client which is the employer who gives them their revenue. So they'll answer which would be in favor of their client. Inspite of several questions of this kind on her forum she or any of her attorneys have not cited a single example of anyone running into trouble on this issue.
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mariusp
05-22 03:41 PM
When the one of the IV leaders is seriously considering going out of status in order to benefit from the great amnesty, you know that something is seriously messed up. Even so, I didn't expect you guys to be the first ones to give up...
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GotGC??
06-26 09:10 PM
Hey guys, this is not such a bad idea...basically it's all about give & take - you give and I take :)
Man, are you serious in asking people not file in time when the topic of the day has been the possible retrogression mid-month in July? And that too on a forum where there are more posts about how to save $3.99 on passport photos than on core team pleas about calling the senators??
Ha..
Man, are you serious in asking people not file in time when the topic of the day has been the possible retrogression mid-month in July? And that too on a forum where there are more posts about how to save $3.99 on passport photos than on core team pleas about calling the senators??
Ha..
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lskreddy
06-13 12:26 PM
Every one has his own vantage point. Mark K has his own and the others who represented for legal immigration has their own. Mark K's argument to only allow the so called 'Einstein caliber" people speaks volumes about how he has simplified the problem.
Sitting on a high position in an immigration research facility does not necessarily mean that he is abreast with the technological needs. From his arguments, he certainly has proven that he has very little or no idea of where the resource needs are.
Everyone of us are here because there is room for us to work. If his research shows that there are more US people who will fill our shoes, then I am sure the market needs would govern the numbers. For all the anti's who cite articles about how low paid we are, how less qualified we are, they should research to complete the full circle. They leave it half-hearted, its not as if they don't know, they just want to stick on to the rhetoric.
Even to entertain Mark K's idea about bringing the so called cream of the crop, there has to be proven ways to identify who these people are. One way of doing it is to allow people to come here on F1, prove their worth in research, work for a few years. One does not become an EB1 qualified before he steps into the country, he probably climbs his way up to that qualification. Some may succeed, some may fail. To selectively choose the best and expel the rest would mean disaster for the country. These are human lives we are talking about, not parts in a process control factory where you can chuck as and when you need as it does not meet 'specifications'.
He has blinders on, and that will never change. You can't debate a person who has already decided on what the outcome. The most amusing part personally for me is that most of the anti-legal folks accuse the entire industry of conspiring to screw their own. I can see how one or two companies to do that, but to underline that the entire system is geared towards raping their own is blasphemous to say the least.
Sitting on a high position in an immigration research facility does not necessarily mean that he is abreast with the technological needs. From his arguments, he certainly has proven that he has very little or no idea of where the resource needs are.
Everyone of us are here because there is room for us to work. If his research shows that there are more US people who will fill our shoes, then I am sure the market needs would govern the numbers. For all the anti's who cite articles about how low paid we are, how less qualified we are, they should research to complete the full circle. They leave it half-hearted, its not as if they don't know, they just want to stick on to the rhetoric.
Even to entertain Mark K's idea about bringing the so called cream of the crop, there has to be proven ways to identify who these people are. One way of doing it is to allow people to come here on F1, prove their worth in research, work for a few years. One does not become an EB1 qualified before he steps into the country, he probably climbs his way up to that qualification. Some may succeed, some may fail. To selectively choose the best and expel the rest would mean disaster for the country. These are human lives we are talking about, not parts in a process control factory where you can chuck as and when you need as it does not meet 'specifications'.
He has blinders on, and that will never change. You can't debate a person who has already decided on what the outcome. The most amusing part personally for me is that most of the anti-legal folks accuse the entire industry of conspiring to screw their own. I can see how one or two companies to do that, but to underline that the entire system is geared towards raping their own is blasphemous to say the least.
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gk_2000
08-02 04:18 PM
I may have lost it there for a bit, I agree. Obviously you are obsessed with me to the point of ignoring my main points and attacking me for the minor ones. If you read the thread, iskantem and I continued our conversation after that.
My points again :
1. The diversity argument is flawed when it comes to skilled immigration, especially when we have most of the grad schools here filled with Indian/Chinese students. This is what I was explaining to "iskantem" and why especially when you are talking about less than 0.05% of the population it doesn't make sense.
2. We don't even allow anyone over here to have an alternate opinion on an issue. In terms of IV activity, it is almost 100% Indian. However 60% of the EB3 backlog is not from India! Now why don't we see these 70000+ ROW guys participating here I wonder! Let me tell you why. Its because a lot of us actively discourage them from participating whenever they have an opinion contrary to ours (read India). Now I maybe guilty of losing it a little there, but I still made an effort to reach out and explain the flaw in the diversity issue he was mentioning rather than mount an all out attack/ignore him right away/stick my head in the ground.
Well, of course since you are so obsessed with me and also with getting reds (if you notice I didn't give you any) you may have missed them. Happy that you got me? And happy you didn't get reds? Good, enjoy your day. Please let's get back to the issues now. Peace.
LOL. I got "snookered" there. But to my credit, I didn't vent a red on you either.
For the record, I don't mind the red's I "earn". But as you also observed, you get that for free around here by the dozen. And I can't ignore it when people act childishly
There is no doubt the policies are flawed, foolish or whatever. But I maintain that screaming out to another person/s in a forum is of little good. Agreed that your arguments have weight, but they should be made to the right person at the right time. So let's wait for the next letter-writing event and we can participate in writing the draft..
My points again :
1. The diversity argument is flawed when it comes to skilled immigration, especially when we have most of the grad schools here filled with Indian/Chinese students. This is what I was explaining to "iskantem" and why especially when you are talking about less than 0.05% of the population it doesn't make sense.
2. We don't even allow anyone over here to have an alternate opinion on an issue. In terms of IV activity, it is almost 100% Indian. However 60% of the EB3 backlog is not from India! Now why don't we see these 70000+ ROW guys participating here I wonder! Let me tell you why. Its because a lot of us actively discourage them from participating whenever they have an opinion contrary to ours (read India). Now I maybe guilty of losing it a little there, but I still made an effort to reach out and explain the flaw in the diversity issue he was mentioning rather than mount an all out attack/ignore him right away/stick my head in the ground.
Well, of course since you are so obsessed with me and also with getting reds (if you notice I didn't give you any) you may have missed them. Happy that you got me? And happy you didn't get reds? Good, enjoy your day. Please let's get back to the issues now. Peace.
LOL. I got "snookered" there. But to my credit, I didn't vent a red on you either.
For the record, I don't mind the red's I "earn". But as you also observed, you get that for free around here by the dozen. And I can't ignore it when people act childishly
There is no doubt the policies are flawed, foolish or whatever. But I maintain that screaming out to another person/s in a forum is of little good. Agreed that your arguments have weight, but they should be made to the right person at the right time. So let's wait for the next letter-writing event and we can participate in writing the draft..
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vin13
06-24 01:15 PM
I understand that Immigration bill is not an easy one to pass. If it is being introduced again, hopefully they are not going to have the exact same wordings. I am sure they would have learnt something from the previous failures and come to some agreeable compromise.
So i think it is good to have some hope and work towards making it happen. Lets not worry about failure. We have nothing much to lose.
So i think it is good to have some hope and work towards making it happen. Lets not worry about failure. We have nothing much to lose.
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payur
06-27 08:15 AM
You seem to have got your case approved and you have filed your wife's I485, correct me if I am wrong.
What do you say to people who have been waiting from 2002 and 2003 and 2004, as of today there is no difference for person who got labor approved in May 2007 and case with priority date May 2003. For lot of them it has been a frustrating and stressful period, mainly because their spouses have been idle.
How on earth can you come with this idea, see the traffic on this site now, when core IV team was fighting for the retrogression and other benefits for our cause, there were very few. The world is selfish buddy. I wish you good luck on this idea.
What do you say to people who have been waiting from 2002 and 2003 and 2004, as of today there is no difference for person who got labor approved in May 2007 and case with priority date May 2003. For lot of them it has been a frustrating and stressful period, mainly because their spouses have been idle.
How on earth can you come with this idea, see the traffic on this site now, when core IV team was fighting for the retrogression and other benefits for our cause, there were very few. The world is selfish buddy. I wish you good luck on this idea.
Dhundhun
07-19 05:59 PM
"Follow to join" provides derivatives opportunity to join beneficiary within 6 months (spouse and kids).
tcsonly
07-19 03:25 PM
you can get medicals in 2 hours.
Not sure if this is chicago/pittsburgh.
your only option is to find out by calling all numbers in chicago and pittsburgs.
People have flown in from various locations into chicago and got medicals in 2 hours.
also, ask your wife to get the immunization record of mmr and tetanus.
that will make your life easier.
x-ray is mandatory.
people, this is a fact.
x-ray is not a must and it's need only if the skin test result is +ve.
Not sure if this is chicago/pittsburgh.
your only option is to find out by calling all numbers in chicago and pittsburgs.
People have flown in from various locations into chicago and got medicals in 2 hours.
also, ask your wife to get the immunization record of mmr and tetanus.
that will make your life easier.
x-ray is mandatory.
people, this is a fact.
x-ray is not a must and it's need only if the skin test result is +ve.
